It's not about Rick B., and it's not about the song (which I think is incredible BTW), it's about how I listen to and analyze music, and how I wish many musicians would too:
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When I listen to music, this is how I do it
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He's right about the music but God he talks too much! Like I gaf what type of hard drive it is and other useless details people talk about in vids.
I don't usually watch videos just because of that crap but I wanted to get an idea of how you listen to music.
I agree btw, thanks for posting.
Cheers!
I don't usually watch videos just because of that crap but I wanted to get an idea of how you listen to music.
I agree btw, thanks for posting.
Cheers!
But you're not describing how you listen.
Now I wish I would listen in that very way that you wish other musicians would listen - but I don't know what 'way' that is.
"Listen and analyze."
Analyze what?
As you can see, I'm in a mood tonight.
Did you watch the video?
I get what you're saying, I listen to music much the same way. Probably from my days in a cover band when I had to learn new songs every week, I got into the habit of listening closely to the changes and any little instrumental bits/fills that "complete" a song.
I think you hit the nail on that. Probably the same reason for me. Sometimes I wonder if I'd have made a good producer. Never had the time.
Of course I watched it.
You probably would have been a good producer Vin.
I ask myself: where does the chain of command go?
Do good producers get a veto from the marketing department?
Some companies did not want the Beatles.
And I still don't know how you listen to music.
I might be a bit autistic. I seldom say 'I know exactly what you're talking about' because I have probably picked out the wrong thing.
Basically, I analyze the living piss out of it. I want to hear every bit of sound on a given track. This goes way back for me, with recordings by Boston. Take a listen to songs like "A Man I'll Never Be", and "More Than A Feeling" and "Don't Look Back" on a good quality audio system. I've been listening to those songs since they came out, and to this day I am still hearing amazing parts in those recordings that I've never heard before. As you keep going through them over and over, you can zero in on a particular frequency area, and isolate just that section or part in your head. If you're an experienced musician (and a very good listener), you will hear parts that casual listeners will never hear - what they hear is the sum of the parts; the song as a whole. But what you will hear are so many amazing little things that, not only make it an awesome experience for you, but also reveal the genius behind the artist. It teaches you so much about production, and where each part that YOU play should go; when to play and when to NOT play; how just playing a single note can affect the song; how to build a song up; how to listen to your whole band objectively and add appropriate parts where they fit best. This is true musicianship. This is why today's music (recordings) are not very good; it's because the recording industry is lazy: they create music for casual listeners. Nothing is more boring to me than watching a guitar player standing around farting out licks all day. My question to them is this: "how well can you fit what you do into a context"?
But wait... there's more.
To be a great musician (and especially a songwriter), you have to know how songs are constructed. It's not always just:Verse, Bridge, Chorus
Verse, Bridge, Chorus
BIG GUITAR SOLO
Verse, Bridge, Chorus, Chorus, Chorus, Fade
(Not the best example, but valid)
There are so many ways songs are constructed, and a song is the context in which a group of musicians live and breathe and work together. That's something I could write a small book about, in and of itself. For now, let it suffice to say that you can learn so much if you take the time to listen carefully, and be objective in your own playing. The better you get at that, the better your musicianship will be.
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Basically, I analyze the living piss out of it. I want to hear every bit of sound on a given track. This goes way back for me, with recordings by Boston. Take a listen to songs like "A Man I'll Never Be", and "More Than A Feeling" and "Don't Look Back" on a good quality audio system. I've been listening to those songs since they came out, and to this day I am still hearing amazing parts in those recordings that I've never heard before. As you keep going through them over and over, you can zero in on a particular frequency area, and isolate just that section or part in your head. If you're an experienced musician (and a very good listener), you will hear parts that casual listeners will never hear - what they hear is the sum of the parts; the song as a whole. But what you will hear are so many amazing little things that, not only make it an awesome experience for you, but reveal the genius behind the artist. It teaches you so much about production, and where each part that YOU paly should go; when to play and when to NOT play; how just playing a single note can affect the song; how to build a song up; how to listen to your whole band objectively and add appropriate parts where they fit best. This is true musicianship. This is why today's music (recordings) are not very good; it's because the recording industry is lazy: they create music for casual listeners. Nothing is more boring to me than watching a guitar player standing around farting out licks all day. My question to them is, "how well can you fit what you do into a context"?
But wait - there's more.
Verse, Bridge, Chorus
Verse, Bridge, Chorus
BIG GUITAR SOLO
Verse, Bridge, Chorus, Chorus, Chorus, Fade
(Not the best example, but valid)
There are so many ways songs are constructed, and a song is the context in which a group of musicians live and breathe and work together. That is something I could write a small book about, in and of itself. For now, let it suffice to say, that you can learn so much if you take the time to listen carefully, and be objective in your own playing. The better you get at that, the better your musicianship will be.
That's an alarmingly rich explanation.
I don't deserve it. It's too good.
I can no longer say I am unsure about what you mean.
I do agree with what you say.
As for me I don't normally think like a producer. I usually wish that somebody else in the room would pick up that job.
And after they pick up that role I will question every decision they make.
Yes, exactly! We all need to be both students AND teachers, and in order for that process to work we have to ask questions and be willing to be questioned (that's how we learn the art of expression). However, that is ideal; it's not usually reality in most band contexts, unfortunately. But when you do work with someone with this mindset, you know instantly that you are working with a professional, or at least one who is becoming one.
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You forgot to ask people to subscribe and buy the Beato PDF book with the discount code.
I thought I secured that in the OP where I said, "It's not about Rick B". No?
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I saw his face on the YouTube video and went into auto-pilot. 👴
They can't all be as pretty as us.
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But wait... there's more.Basically, I analyze the living piss out of it. I want to hear every bit of sound on a given track. This goes way back for me, with recordings by Boston. Take a listen to songs like "A Man I'll Never Be", and "More Than A Feeling" and "Don't Look Back" on a good quality audio system. I've been listening to those songs since they came out, and to this day I am still hearing amazing parts in those recordings that I've never heard before. As you keep going through them over and over, you can zero in on a particular frequency area, and isolate just that section or part in your head. If you're an experienced musician (and a very good listener), you will hear parts that casual listeners will never hear - what they hear is the sum of the parts; the song as a whole. But what you will hear are so many amazing little things that, not only make it an awesome experience for you, but also reveal the genius behind the artist. It teaches you so much about production, and where each part that YOU play should go; when to play and when to NOT play; how just playing a single note can affect the song; how to build a song up; how to listen to your whole band objectively and add appropriate parts where they fit best. This is true musicianship. This is why today's music (recordings) are not very good; it's because the recording industry is lazy: they create music for casual listeners. Nothing is more boring to me than watching a guitar player standing around farting out licks all day. My question to them is this: "how well can you fit what you do into a context"?
But wait... there's more.
Verse, Bridge, Chorus
Verse, Bridge, Chorus
BIG GUITAR SOLO
Verse, Bridge, Chorus, Chorus, Chorus, Fade
(Not the best example, but valid)
There are so many ways songs are constructed, and a song is the context in which a group of musicians live and breathe and work together. That's something I could write a small book about, in and of itself. For now, let it suffice to say that you can learn so much if you take the time to listen carefully, and be objective in your own playing. The better you get at that, the better your musicianship will be.
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