the current Digitech Bad Monkey situation

[Rokinroller]

I bought mine used about 7 or 8 years ago, for about 40 bucks.

And thats all they are worth . I would not pay more than 40 bucks for that thing .

 

[Rokinroller]

Bad Monkey? Indeed. Anyone falling for this scam is likely going to wind up feeling like this poor lady.

Now , that BAD MONKEY is worth a few bucks !

 

[Rokinroller]

I reiterate the point I have made elsewhere: there is a mile of difference between being able to dial A to sound like B and B to A, and being able to Dial B all the way through the spectrum of A’s range.

The real red flag is how the BM seems to be able to emulate 3 or 4 different pedals that we all know from experience do not sound like one-another (i.e., a TS does not do a Klon at all). So either the BM is the alpha and omega of swiss army circuits, which is a load of BS… or (assuming no engineering manipulation as hypothetically suggested above), the pedals were dialed out of their ranges to hit one overlapping spot which may or may not be ideal or what the pedal is really known for. I am surprised that nobody else brings this up in such responses.

The video shows the switch box leds switching ..... but its not switching NOTHING ! Its all one pedal only trickery . Too many dumbass bullshit gobblers around . World runs on bullshit . Its a 40$ pedal forever .

 

[Gunner64]

I have a Vintage big box Rat with the original box. Should be worth at least 3k. No low ballers! (The gougers always say that) The tone is in the box!

 

[JamminJeff]

OK... here's the thing... yes, I happen to have one... technically, I have not decided to sell it (yet), therefore, I don't think this thread qualifies for the classified category of this forum. I just figured I would post this here to put out some feelers to see what the market (around here) is like. what do you folks think? I think I know what the general consensus is, which I won't elaborate on right now, however, it seems that the value is still going through the roof, regardless.

so...what do you guys have to say about it? are you rabid for a Bad Monkey pedal? do you think the whole JHS debacle is pure silliness? I wanna hear your input.

Reverb.com has become a massive GOUGEFEST.

I just avoid it and will wait for it to collapse.

There are other sites to find gear or we could all just practice more. I did say, we and not the royal we.

 

[Wildeman]

Let them have'em, more Metal Zones for me.

 

[bill0287]

Seems reasonable... $99,000.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/225486204920?epid=133882657&hash=item3480066ff8:g:wBAAAOSw4J1kFdtV&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAA4HKxWPIkjUD50n1XRYv9ODsKUb7PmrzkLeX1Xdf2UxfEQRbA48m3y1ybeoZZFKmDhIINJGLDq/3uai0UvN+9U1CCx2nKvRb0KFzRTkUvAzztuovhc+XI2NSWaaGHlYXBpZ2xieWoazeAGzCLXtsnWGbqwaeNM3BIdr0FCx966ZpuadF5m6s9yDt0oA93PBD4pK+HxKAshwhplBaW7J8KthO2U5+WNg5qC/LQA86xrd540F3qFQu7EyLglJ6hoIESN2e4C8Y9OUcAlRFcG4BanVn98WSqwhDjshyTgKARMNV0|tkp:BFBM9Iyn_N5h

 

[johan.b]

Anything more than 150€/£/$ for a opamp/diode based, 9 volt powered stompbox is just silly... ok, take it up to 250 for the handmade by green eyed maidens in a sacret cave on a mysterious island somewhere near "Hy-brasil" boutique boxes... but there is no inherent magic in any make TL072/4558/308... the stompbox market has just gone bananas... people are paying silly money for 10€/€/$ worth of components and the schematics are easy to find on google...

 

[Wildeman]

I'm a Rat fan, saving up for this one...

 

[SmokeyDopey]

stompbox market has just gone bananas...

I see what you did there

 

[junk notes]

Published March 16, 2023 by Reverb News and Reviews

Josh Scott Pours Gas on His Bad Monkey Scandal

A complete set of early aughts DigiTech pedals could be yours—for only 50 grand.

reverb.com

 

[Gunner64]

I'm a Rat fan, saving up for this one... View attachment 127281

I Had a tone knob Rat in the early 80's. Bought it for $50, and sold it for the same money...back then who knew.

$7600...haha..c'mon people get real.

 

[Gunner64]

I got this one...Mint in the box. I'll let it go for $1000 with free shipping. It's got the magic LM308 chip in it..and a new battery! Factory bubblewrap! Serious collector shit here!!

 

[Wildeman]

I Had a tone knob Rat in the early 80's. Bought it for $50, and sold it for the same money...back then who knew.

$7600...haha..c'mon people get real.

Yeah, lemme think...... Murphy aged R6, Master built Broadcaster or a Rat pedal????

 

[Dogs of Doom]

 

[junk notes]

 

[V-man]

I think this is part of a larger thing with guitarists, though, and that is that we tend to be susceptible to hype. Vintage gear, as a great example. I know I'll probably ruffle some feathers here and so I want it to be clear that I think vintage stuff is cool and I'm not taking shots at anybody that loves vintage gear. But aside from the cool factor it's not objectively better (with some rare exceptions) than well-made modern equivalents. Just look at JCM 900's. I like them. I have for some time. Around 2010 you couldn't give them away. In my neck of the woods could pick up a 50 watt combo for $400 in good condition. Dual Reverb 100 watt heads were $500. Now 900's of any series are four figure amps. Because "vintage." The amp didn't change.

I definitely credit the concept of your argument, but I would say your example tells a different and contradictory story.

JCM 900s were under-valued for being so maligned and it took at least 15 years of calling out internet bullshit to put them on track for a fairer valuation. That correction may seem oddly abrupt because it coincided with artificial factors from COVID/Supply/economy issues recently as values universally ratcheted up.

I would say that for your point to translate to the 900 series, these amps should fundamentally suck ass if not represent complete mediocrity, and have only been inflated in value purely by vintage idiocy. The fact is the opposite is the case. These were MiUK Flagship amplifiers, whose voicing and dialing needs were under-appreciated until perhaps the last 10 years or so. A MiUK multi-channel tube amplifier with extremely durable build quality and proven experience holds intrinsic value. I would think a perfect illustration for your point would be a hypothetical market correction for something like the Gibson Somex Suddenly commanding $2,500 premiums, as that guitar is factually a true piece of shit and the only thing inflating that value is the argument that it is a “vintage Gibson.”

 

[PowerTube44]

There was a time when Fender couldn't give the yellow Strats away. Then along came Yngwie.
There was a time when I bought a Kramer Focus 2000 in a pawn shop for $175.00 plus taxes. Now they're listing in the $800.00 range.
There was a time when the original Tube Screamer could be bought brand new for what, $50.00 or so? Then Stevie Ray spoke highly of them and now it's ridiculous.
What set the Klon Centaur on fire? Anybody know?

These "hot" items come and go, but what matters to me is MY sound. I've never liked the Tube Screamer, and I doubt that a Klon would be my sound, generally speaking.

So you never know when a piece of gear you've had sitting on your shelf will "go hot," either because some hotshot guitarist uses it or because _________ (fill in the blank).

 

[PowerTube44]

JCM 900s were under-valued for being so maligned and it took at least 15 years of calling out internet bullshit to put them on track for a fairer valuation. That correction may seem oddly abrupt because it coincided with artificial factors from COVID/Supply/economy issues recently as values universally ratcheted up.

Over the last year, I've seen the JCM 2000 DSL 100 heads go from averaging in the $600.00 range to the $800.00+ territory. For the time being, I think that's just supply chain issues and inflation. But just wait until the amp is truly "discovered." It's going to be insane.

Never mind that the newer ones have no bias drift issues, a Resonance knob instead of an "all or nothing" Deep switch, tubes mounted to the chassis instead of a circuit board, a better-designed rear panel, and a thicker, stronger carrying handle. It doesn't matter. The JCM version will be "highly-prized" in a few years, almost guaranteed.

 

[V-man]

Over the last year, I've seen the JCM 2000 DSL 100 heads go from averaging in the $600.00 range to the $800.00+ territory. For the time being, I think that's just supply chain issues and inflation. But just wait until the amp is truly "discovered." It's going to be insane.

On one hand, you can say the market is over-saturated with DSLs, but at a time (now still?) there was a premium attached to Block 5150s in a world where you can also get a 6505/6505+, Two other versions of Peavey-branded 5150s, and EVH branded 5150s, so???