Still crazy pricing? Or am I out of touch?

[neikeel]

Apologies to anyone here if this belongs to them but in case someone has itchy trigger finger
https://reverb.com/uk/item/60833718...-watt-super-bass-rare-once-in-a-lifetime-find
The listing talks about a 45/100 and with the block end chassis that looks correct as is the early window serial number, but that is where it gets interesting. The listing emphasises the rear panel replacement and does say that it has a Chris Merren PT. Athough by the time the gold plexi rear panels were made the PT was the smaller 1203-80 with dual secondaries and used with dual rectifiers

It omits that the OT is a replacement - looks like '80s EL34 type, choke is new. I do not think any of the components on the main board are original (there are some mustards and Pihers and modern xicons).

The cap board, apart from being modern material is completely wrong layout/type. Should be dual rectifiers and 8 caps. Suprised Chris Merren is letting the guy use his name in the ad. !!
I sold my original '67 EL34 with blockend chassis a couple of years ago for less than half that amount so I would not be recommending the one there to anyone at that price.

 

[AndyD]

Apologies to anyone here if this belongs to them but in case someone has itchy trigger finger
https://reverb.com/uk/item/60833718...-watt-super-bass-rare-once-in-a-lifetime-find
The listing talks about a 45/100 and with the block end chassis that looks correct as is the early window serial number, but that is where it gets interesting. The listing emphasises the rear panel replacement and does say that it has a Chris Merren PT. Athough by the time the gold plexi rear panels were made the PT was the smaller 1203-80 with dual secondaries and used with dual rectifiers

It omits that the OT is a replacement - looks like '80s EL34 type, choke is new. I do not think any of the components on the main board are original (there are some mustards and Pihers and modern xicons).

The cap board, apart from being modern material is completely wrong layout/type. Should be dual rectifiers and 8 caps. Suprised Chris Merren is letting the guy use his name in the ad. !!
I sold my original '67 EL34 with blockend chassis a couple of years ago for less than half that amount so I would not be recommending the one there to anyone at that price.

“Yes“ it is a crazy price, and “no” I do not think you are out of touch! It is scary that these amps come up for sale and that most people would not have a clue as to their originality…..myself included. As for the asking price…..pure greed!

 

[Whatwhatringrang]

That listing has been up there for maybe a week or two . Yeah that has a lot stuff not right about it. I actually think the back panel is a replacement he put on there (I can’t remember right now).All transformers are unoriginal with lots of other stuff. The back gold panel I believe he says he took off his 73 super bass for this.

Yeah i am not into slamming/bashing people about stuff but the listing kinda piss‘s me off. The price is quite insane for a lash up . I would say not a great one to buy for any propose lol. That is why I think you are right on. Surprised no one brought this up earlier on here actually.

 

[nickfox]

Just curious. We'll see what he says...

 

[Whatwhatringrang]

Should look similar to this but i do not see them as often. Sorry i don’t feel like taking and uploading pics this early .

 

[Whatwhatringrang]

These have all turned into stupid money for a amplifier and I feel funny I can finally have a few I paid too much for /traded stuff.

This is similar to Neilkeel was talking about in the era. However this era one does have a great range it can do. It does the supernatural type feedback on Every note(no dead spots and deafening) which I really love. However does the beautiful Hendrix/Mayfield type rythmn tone. The the semi dirty type sound . I think it covers the bases for me the most of the one I have .

However when already paying to much make sure they are somewhat original . Neilkeel and some others on here are history experts on these.

P.S. If someone has a steel chassis blackflag with the single rectifier(ot which is the later non 100v line 4,8,16) Also the later with 470k lead amp with bright cap is interested in trading some old Marshall’s let me know.

 

[DaDoc]

The bad part is that there's so many of these overpriced non-original amps out there right now it's becoming the norm..But even worse, that there's people out there with more money than good sense who will pay the prices asked. Or, if the seller knocks off a couple of hundred, they will walk away thinking they "got a great deal"!

 

[playloud]

This one is particularly outrageous, but people asking crazy prices is nothing new. I remember 70s Strats being listed for $20k in the early 2000s.

The last 45/100 I can recall selling on Reverb was this one: https://reverb.com/p/marshall-jmp-1...att-amp-head-1967-1975?ended_listing=59773021

Reverb will only let me view it on my phone, so in case that's the same for the rest of you, here's a screenshot:



This one was a lot nicer than the one above, and the price seemed alright to me (£8k). Granted, I haven't been around long enough to remember the 'good old days'!

 

[London John]

The seller is Gary Hernandez, or “Big Hern” as he likes to call himself.

He will be very aware of what he’s selling, and has an illustrious history for trying to sell fake gear for silly money. The saga that was/is him selling a fake Explorer is beyond parody.

See https://www.lespaulforum.com/index....andye-kane-guitars-west-owned-on-ebay.200741/

….for 29 pages of his utter shite.

Avoid like herpes.

 

[79 2203]

Yep, the prices for vintage Marshalls has got ridiculous, but it’s the ones with issues that are really laughable. Yesterday I saw a metal panel 1969 JMP for AU $8k and thought, wow that’s so much money but maybe they’ll accept a couple of grand off. And then I noticed it’s got a replacement OT !! WTF !!

 

[Whatwhatringrang]

For the love of Ishmael … Mccraken aka Big Ern Like from the movie king pin. “ big ern” Great movie . Damn that makes my head spin.

There is a regular 45/100 from same era on gbase someone has messed with small stuff but looks pretty clean with original filters . They want 25k ! The chassis even has standoffs for the extra pa board.

Do People have broken impedance switch’s (the small ones broken)or not checking on everything. I never had problem with that stuff in like 20 years knock on wood. I Regularly abuse these old amps lol ,With no transformer meltage. However I keep the voltages relatively close to correct with a variac ,set them up reasonably like they should be ,put great tubes in them. It only takes once And shit can happen. I just think when you go sell amps they should mention the transformer or other obvious problems.

 

[Ned B]

The seller is Gary Hernandez, or “Big Hern” as he likes to call himself.

He will be very aware of what he’s selling, and has an illustrious history for trying to sell fake gear for silly money. The saga that was/is him selling a fake Explorer is beyond parody.

See https://www.lespaulforum.com/index....andye-kane-guitars-west-owned-on-ebay.200741/

….for 29 pages of his utter shite.

Avoid like herpes.

Quite an intense little 6-day brawl. Whatever became of that "Explorer?"

 

[London John]

Quite an intense little 6-day brawl. Whatever became of that "Explorer?"

That’s the $750,000 question.

 

[playloud]

Here's a new one: https://reverb.com/item/62013576-1966-marshall-jtm45-4x12-cab-stack-gary-moore-owned-black

This seller seems to have a penchant for outrageous pricing. Perhaps he also saw the recent Marshall video that said some JTM45s came with KT88s?

 

[junk notes]

Cannot see the date codes on the mustards and no insulation paint on many of the soldering joints. Heaters are twisty.

 

[nickfox]

The seller finally responded to me. He said he thought the OT was original. I thanked him for his response and left it at that. There really wasn't much more to say.

 

[Amadeus91]

The seller finally responded to me. He said he thought the OT was original. I thanked him for his response and left it at that. There really wasn't much more to say.

I bet "thought" was just his way of covering his as*. You were were right to end the conversation there.
With this guy it is better to "let sleeping dogs LIE", pun intended.....

 

[Seanxk]

Cannot see the date codes on the mustards and no insulation paint on many of the soldering joints. Heaters are twisty.

I'm not entirely sure about blockends and solder die, but the pre blockends I've owned had none.
I must say I haven't studied the pictures but that amp is about as right as most have mentioned........

 

[Seanxk]

The seller is Gary Hernandez, or “Big Hern” as he likes to call himself.

He will be very aware of what he’s selling, and has an illustrious history for trying to sell fake gear for silly money. The saga that was/is him selling a fake Explorer is beyond parody.

See https://www.lespaulforum.com/index....andye-kane-guitars-west-owned-on-ebay.200741/

….for 29 pages of his utter shite.

Avoid like herpes.

Wow, 29 pages. We don't know how lucky we are having @neikeel here, one post and we can all steer clear...........

 

[neikeel]

The Gary Moore owned JTM45 is presumably being priced on its owner history and provenance. It probably had a hard working life but appears to have all the important transformers and choke, some of the mustards are replacements as are 4/6 pots, all the knobs, few resistors and the 'in the field' cap repairs. We've all done these repairs either for ourselves or others to get through next tour (or more likely - gig!).
Not worth anything like that in my personal opinion much as I rate Gary Moore as a guitar player (on occasions).