Stacking a boost pedal, help.

TheSaz

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Hello.

New to the forum but not new to "forums". 🙋🏻‍♂️

Anywho, Im trying to use a Waza SD1 to boost a Friedman BE OD. The main purpose I want to use the BE OD is mainly the bottom end it offers, I love it. Im having a hard time(clearly doing something wrong) trying to dial in both pedals, so heres what I got..

GUITAR->BE OD->WAZA->AMP.

Im not trying to add or introduce MORE gain from the BE, my amp offers plenty(and if I were to use the Waza alone is perfection) just seeking to boost BE, thats all. So I figured everything dialed at noon on the BE, the volume is whats tricky. I have the Waza Level maxed out, Drive at 0, tone at 12 o'clock. My issue is, once i turn on the Waza, I get a tremendous annoyance of feedback.

Any input would be greatly appreciated, thank you!
 
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Thanks, ill give it a shot once I get a chance.
 

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Stacking pedals has not worked well often IMO when one or both are full bore. You don’t dime the shit of one into/after the other. Instead, you roll the volume back by 50-75% for each and adjust from there. Same goes with drive/distortion.
 

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I hear ya. Im just trying to boost the BE for its bottom end, not necessarily trying to mix the 2 together.
 

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Actually putting SD-1 before BE-OD will result in pumping more gain into already heavy-driven BE-OD and will result in the mush. Since you want to boost volume after BE-OD for the purposes of the solo boost then yes, SD-1 should go after the BE-OD with gain on SD-1 set at 0 and volume to taste. If you get too much feedback and noise I would advise you to start by decreasing the gain on BE-OD (even push the internal gain trimpot counterclockwise if needed, this pedal has too much gain anyways) and adjust the volume on SD-1 until you get an acceptable level of noise and still managing to achieve a certain degree of volume boost. You need to find the sweetspot. Also, use high-quality cables - this does more than what many might think.
 

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Try a larger value (a) cathode bypass cap, or a (b) larger value treble peaker cap on your amp for more bottom end. The pedal bandwidth is effected by the preamp, believe it or not.
 

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What about adding in a eq pedal? You’ll get the low frequencies back.
 

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I stack 2 all the time--currently a JRockett Archer Clean into a Chase Tone Secret Preamp. You just can't have much if any gain dialed in. The SD1 is a pretty gainy box and I have to assume the Friedman is even more so.

Remember, playing quietly is going to allow for a lot more gain before feedback. What works in the bedroom/basement can be howl city when you turn up to drummer volume. Those pedals just may not be able to coexist--how high are your gain and level knobs?
 

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I wonder what the low-end response would be like if you turn the amps gain down and master volume up more instead. Then dial in your gain from there.

My BE-OD into my Origin boosted sounds amazing.
 

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Hello.

New to the forum but not new to "forums". 🙋🏻‍♂️

Anywho, Im trying to use a Waza SD1 to boost a Friedman BE OD. The main purpose I want to use the BE OD is mainly the bottom end it offers, I love it. Im having a hard time(clearly doing something wrong) trying to dial in both pedals, so heres what I got..

GUITAR->BE OD->WAZA->AMP.

Im not trying to add or introduce MORE gain from the BE, my amp offers plenty(and if I were to use the Waza alone is perfection) just seeking to boost BE, thats all. So I figured everything dialed at noon on the BE, the volume is whats tricky. I have the Waza Level maxed out, Drive at 0, tone at 12 o'clock. My issue is, once i turn on the Waza, I get a tremendous annoyance of feedback.

Any input would be greatly appreciated, thank you!
Put BEOD last in the chain.
 

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If the amp is distorted, the best way to use an EQ or boost without adding more gain is to place it in the loop.
 

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What amp are you pushing all this delicious overdrive into? How is it set?
 

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What about adding in a eq pedal? You’ll get the low frequencies back.

This makes more sense to me if your goal is to manipulate / shape the overall EQ. I’ve never managed to add bass by boosting an amp or dirt box with an OD … if anything, it not only tightens up the bass, but there’s always a bit of a bass cut. Though, I don’t like a lot of bass in my tone (just enough to solidify everything).
 

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