Rock & Roll isn't dead yet but they're trying to kill us!!

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Boomer thread incoming, brace yourselves...
Until about 10 years ago, my band rented a storage unit for practice- 24/7 gate access, no noise ordinances, you could show up at 2 in the morning and wail on a Marshall stack cranked to 10 and it was gravy. It was like a home away from home, sometimes we'd spend all day out there. We even had cots and couches and a minifridge, brought girls over, slept there when we had a few too many, the whole 9 yards. Not to mention the lot was like a party scene, we certainly weren't the only band there. There would be full-on shows there some nights, management would clear it and a group would play and a local vendor would serve food & drinks out in the lot. They would often charge a small cover and give it to the property manager, gratuity for allowing it. Beyond all this, there was a real communal vibe. People would wander around when they finished their practice session and go listen to the other groups jam, end up hanging out and getting to know each other. It was like a local musician's exchange. Many long-term friendships and working professional relationships came out of this scene, not to mention gear being bought & sold & traded. Furthermore, there were several storage space properties around town like this! Got a band? Just pick the one closest to you!
All this is gone. We left that lot when the band broke up, and I moved my equipment into the drummer's parents' basement since he and I continued working together. Through the years since then, we've been through a few singers & bass players & other guitarists in small projects, but now we want to full-on get the band back together. In order to do this, we obviously need a place again to rehearse at full-volume with plenty of space and on a flexible time schedule, because everybody works and can't necessarily be there those few times a week when dude's parents are gone. My first instinct was to give that old storage company a call and re-establish our old arrangement- not only have they been bought out, the new company has a strict "storage only" policy. So I googled local storage spaces, went down the call list... not a single one in or outside of the city can accommodate us. In fact, most of them are downright rude. One guy straight up hung up on me, one lady gasped like she was clutching her pearls and said "absolutely not!!" One guy snickered and said "we don't want that kind of element sleazing around here."
So there you have it, the state of things. How will we ever bring back rock & roll if we can't even find a place to play it? Sucks, man.
 

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@Skotosynthesis
That truly sucks, I have always had band practice at my house, never did the storage lot rehearsal’s, but if they are no more, then you do have to adapt and overcome as was said above me..
Happy hunting so to speak
In the early 90’s when we actually rehearsed in my garage, once a week, I had gone to all of my neighbors an let them know our intentions . It worked out ok, but we also installed insulation in my garage.
It was 2-1/2 “ thick rigid insulation glued to 1/2” plywood that was extra material left over from a project we had done.
Enough rambling on my part ..

Mitch
 

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That does suck. There aren't many papers to put a Want Ad in either. Might give craigslist a try. You might find something a bit out further. Out "In the Booney's" or rural areas. They used to have personal ads for stuff like that too, "Situation Wanted"

I would think if you made such an ad with rent and mortgages so high People that have room might allow it.
 

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Yeah, I grew up in the boondocks and we always had a garage for the high school bands! I miss those days sometimes, but now I'm in a city townhouse with my girlfriend. The neighbors are cool about noise, but not full-rock-band-with-a-drummer cool. I mean, who is when you're sharing walls? And of course there's not much flexibility when you're using your drummer's parents' house to jam lol
Tight confines, can't play when they're home so you have to work around both their schedules and the drummer's... plus, they're selling the house and retiring at the beach within half a year so we won't even have that soon! I guess I need to find a bass player with a garage. I just took it for granted that practicing at a storage space would always be an option, but it certainly looks like the tide has shifted against it.
Just got on here to vent and bitch really, thanks for listening. I'll update when I find something!
 

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yeah, I might end up doing the Craigslist thing. Or posting up a flyer at the local music store. Only problem is the guy with the garage gets to call the shots! I've definitely run into that got kind of ego trip before, using a practice pad as power leverage. With a storage space, everybody pitches in for rent and it's democratic. Like roommates. Oh well, can't always get what you want and beggars can't be choosers!
 

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you could check out , your local elks hall or knight of columbus or something like that and see if they will let you reherse on days when they are not busy , they might charge a small fee , or nothing at all if they are fealing generous .
 

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Try a church with a hall. A lot of clergy are cool with music and they need to rent halls during the week when there are no weddings. Just don’t leave a mess and they would appreciate some income as well as helping to foster a local creative scene. Or I would if you asked me.
 

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yeah, I might end up doing the Craigslist thing. Or posting up a flyer at the local music store. Only problem is the guy with the garage gets to call the shots! I've definitely run into that got kind of ego trip before, using a practice pad as power leverage. With a storage space, everybody pitches in for rent and it's democratic. Like roommates. Oh well, can't always get what you want and beggars can't be choosers!
I posted an ad in craigslist a bunch of years ago when I needed a room to rent, I got a hundred responses! I listed my requirements, $250 a month, no pets, no smoking, the area I wanted to be in, and people were begging me to pick them to live with! You can post a similar ad and have the lot to choose from! :yesway:
 

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@Skotosynthesis
That truly sucks, I have always had band practice at my house, never did the storage lot rehearsal’s, but if they are no more, then you do have to adapt and overcome as was said above me..
Happy hunting so to speak
In the early 90’s when we actually rehearsed in my garage, once a week, I had gone to all of my neighbors an let them know our intentions . It worked out ok, but we also installed insulation in my garage.
It was 2-1/2 “ thick rigid insulation glued to 1/2” plywood that was extra material left over from a project we had done.
Enough rambling on my part ..

Mitch
I insulated and sheetrocked my moms garage and put carpet underlayment on the walls, you couldnt hear a thing outside and could play all night! And it was all leftover building materials from jobs :yesway:
 

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yeah, I might end up doing the Craigslist thing. Or posting up a flyer at the local music store. Only problem is the guy with the garage gets to call the shots! I've definitely run into that got kind of ego trip before, using a practice pad as power leverage. With a storage space, everybody pitches in for rent and it's democratic. Like roommates. Oh well, can't always get what you want and beggars can't be choosers!

Well, I have to say there's two sides to that argument..

I was on that boat with the last band I tried to put together. I finally had my very own practice room/man cave, and wanted to put together a cover band playing classic rock from the 60's and 70's. I had a clear vision for the band, and made this VERY clear when I started looking for people to jam with.

My first red flag was when the drummer never came to practice without bringing at least a six-pack of tall boys with him and leaving lit every night, then him and the bassist sort of ganged up on me and brought in a kid singer who came to practice carrying nothing but a microphone, who wasn't all that great a singer, and who wanted to play freakin' rap! They then pretty much demanded I go along with whatever THEY wanted to do, with the vision I had for the group and the stuff I originally wanted to play getting pushed to the side.

That's when I said screw this, it's MY room, MY P.A., and I wasn't going to have ANY say over what went and what didn't? So I told the other guys it just wasn't going to work out..Buh-bye!

They seemed surprised..:lol:

IMO, a band has to have a leader. The "totally democratic" approach seldom works out too well..It often just winds up being a free-for-all. Everyone needs to have input, but the bottom line is someone has to step up and take the reins in order to make it work.

By the way, the other guys in the band never played with anyone else again that I heard of..I wasn't surprised. :shrug:
 
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Look for repurposed factories and the like, nowadays it seems to be a thing to convert them into artist's studios..Although I would imagine they wouldn't be cheap to rent.
This is a good idea. I live like 3 miles from an area that has a lot of craft breweries and train tracks. One of the breweries has like an old admin office wing with suites, ranch style. One of those has a band practicing in it. I went and peaked in the window one night on the way out. I'd bet it's rather low rent and no noise ordinance in that kind of place. Its surrounded on all sides by very large construction/engineering offices and large equipment parking lot/storage big tractor type stuff.

I like the brewery they have a train beer discount; a pint for $2 every time a train goes by. I got four pints for $8 over a few hours. That is cheaper than a six pack at a store and a lot more fun.
 

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Thanks for all the input! And yeah, the church thing is an interesting idea but I'd rather not have to deal with them in this area unless it's a special circumstance- Alabama here, and I'm afraid that means the majority of local churches are psycho-evangelical and political, almost cultish. Hope that doesn't sound judgmental, it just is what it is. They still very much believe down here that rock & roll is the Devil's music!!
Someone suggested the local Mason's lodge, I *might* try that as a last resort.
And yes, I've done the abandoned/repurposed factory thing before! One time, it was a live factory- the singer in the band I was in had a cool boss and he just let us use the shop to practice at night. Another time, it was an abandoned biscuit factory that some local heiress bought and rented out as an art/music studio/concert hall. I think she ended up having drug problems and losing all her money, though.
I did end up finding out about one last storage space around here that still allows bands to practice, it's all the way across town but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do! I'm still waiting on call-backs from a couple of mom & pop storage facilities, but at least now I know if those don't work out there's at least that one option. I hate having to commute through heavy traffic for 40 minutes just to go play guitar, but oh well. It's better than nothing!
In the meantime, I might try the Craigslist option.
Oh, and what DaDoc said... yes, I've had problems like that! Maybe I should have said "Republic" and not "Democracy?" lol
You definitely have to exercise some form of "legislation" sometimes...
 

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Have you looked into an artist's workspace? Where I'm from there are a couple of places that let bands come in and rehearse there. They are in industrial areas of town where people won't care about noise in the middle of the night. The one my band worked out of for a while had both a membership and a pay-as-you go option. They weren't necessarily cheap -it was like deluxe cable package money - but spread out among band members it was workable.
 

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