NPD: EH Octavix (fail)

PelliX

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This is not a happy new pedal day. I bought an EH Octavix, looking to get a little of those octave overtones a la Hendrix and Vaughan for example. Although EH don't mention Hendrix by name, the pedal and its description strongly suggest this is what it's intended to do. I've been around a fair deal of gear and I'm no stranger to FX chains, so I'm looking for some practical experience here. My problems with the pedal include the following:

* Fuzz is nasty. Sure, easy to say, but I mean it's worse than any other similar fuzz I've ever dealt with in a guitar signal chain. A can of bees would be musical compared to this. It reminds me of what happens when you drive a MOSFET totally beyond any reasonable expectation. When the fuzz is turned to zero, the rest of the pedal.. ehm, becomes usable.
* Loud pop when engaging/disengaging the bypass. Not the same as actually physically tapping the tip of your signal cable, but there is a distinct plop, generally when switching to bypass.
* Flipping between 9V and 24V also generates a fair pop which - without looking at the circuit - I can understand. It also does it in bypass though, so effectively there is no way to flip the switch 'live'.
* The signal input level has to be extremely low for the output not to turn into a bucket of mush - and I do mean bucket of mush, not just some hair on the tone but real indecipherable "mush". I have to dial the volume on my Strat (single coil, low output pickups) back to about 6 to accomplish this. A (single coil, standard) Tele needs even more rolling back.
* At any given setting, if the effect is "working" on the top two or three strings, hitting one of the lower two or three turns the entire output to mush again.
* As soon as the pedal is actually adding any kind octave effect it sounds as if there's a compressor engaged.
Now, I haven't actually looked inside the pedal, though I did obviously check the power supply and try the pedal with another one; same behavior. A lot of the problems I've described would lead me to suspect the voltage regulation inside the unit. Do the complaints above sound familiar with regard to this pedal? Does anybody have any hacks or mods that made it usable to them? Generally, I'd take such a thing apart and figure out what's going on and what needs rectifying, but I bought this pedal to avoid the "hassle" of building something similar myself. I might just gut it and put in a decent circuit, but let's hear what you guys have to say first. Thanks!
 

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Also, not to nitpick, but what a marketing dept failure:

The EHX Octavix Octave Fuzz delivers the definitive late 1960’s fuzzed out, octave up sound [...] A period-evocative, psychedelic design and blue LED contribute to the pedal’s vintage vibe.

Source: https://www.ehx.com/products/octavix/

The blue LED (despite perhaps having been prototyped by RCA in the 70's) was only properly developed in 1989 by a Japanese fellow of whom I forget the name.
 

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Well, if nobody else was stupid enough to buy (and keep) this pedal, I'm going to rip it open. If I find the fault (I'm not even truly sure it's faulty yet - it might just be a crappy product) I'll report back here. My hunch is that the voltage regulation is off somehow.
 

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Well, no defect that I could find. Voltages checked out, nothing obviously amiss. Gave up troubleshooting it and sold it at a the loss of about a tenner. Almost felt guilty about it, but the guy got it at half the shop price, so I hope he's happy with it.
 

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After reading your post I went and looked at a couple of youtube videos of the pedal, and yes, that's a pretty nasty tone!
 

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After reading your post I went and looked at a couple of youtube videos of the pedal, and yes, that's a pretty nasty tone!

I kinda liked some of the youtube sounds I heard. The samples on the EH website are lovely (yes, well, they would be, wouldn't they). The real thing is a bucket of shi*t. The fuzz sounds like a defective circuit and the octave function is like a compressor, noise gate and ring modulator packed into one - and badly. I've never been so entirely disappointed in a product, but I also never really buy pedals... :D
 

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Well that sucks.

Sorry to hear the pedal didn't work out. I have a few EHX pedals that I think are good, but I will avoid this.
 

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I have got one and i found it pretty decent. Not a pedal masterpiece, but a pretty good one that does the job it's meant for. Matter of tastes in the end, i think.
 

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I have got one and i found it pretty decent. Not a pedal masterpiece, but a pretty good one that does the job it's meant for. Matter of tastes in the end, i think.

How about the signal levels and the 'farting' when playing low strings? Are you saying these things worked 'normally' for you? I'm genuinely interested - and surprised. :)
 

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Kind of old thread brought to the top by "similar threads" -- sorry.

But have you tried other Octavia-type pedals? They're all nasty sounding and fart out on low notes, work best when you're playing single notes or double-stops above the 10th fret, pretty useless for chords.

Jimi kept using his modded Fuzz Faces as his main fuzzes after he added the Octavia to his rig. He only turned on the Octavia when he wanted the weird, almost ring modulator Octavia sound.

Just wondering if you're saying the EHX is worse than other Octavias, or if you just don't like Octavias.
 

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Kind of old thread brought to the top by "similar threads" -- sorry.

But have you tried other Octavia-type pedals? They're all nasty sounding and fart out on low notes, work best when you're playing single notes or double-stops above the 10th fret, pretty useless for chords.

No, I've got a BOSS GX-700 which has an octaver function and that Octavix I mentioned, that's all so far. I'm looking for those 'higher overtones' and perhaps the clue is to split the signal and filter the low end before going through the octaver, then bring the wet and dry signals on, either together or to two amps. Currently I'm focused on a selection of songs for which I don't need it, but it'll be revisited for sure!

Jimi kept using his modded Fuzz Faces as his main fuzzes after he added the Octavia to his rig. He only turned on the Octavia when he wanted the weird, almost ring modulator Octavia sound.

Indeed, I'm not really after the weird sounds, more the overtones a la SRV or Hendrix as classic examples. When I revisit this, I'll probably drop by the local guitar place and see if they have something applicable to try out.

Just wondering if you're saying the EHX is worse than other Octavias, or if you just don't like Octavias.

I couldn't tell you - I know that I like what others can do with them...
 

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