Marshall tube amp for home

[Cal Nevari]

Yeah Cal, an eq pedal is one of the secret sauces for guitar amplification, lol.

What I forgot to mention is the eq pedal goes in the loop, not in front. I’m using two of my amps mostly these days, and both have an eq pedal in the loop.

I wish I had known about this about 40 years ago! It helps you to adjust the frequencies of you amp with almost surgical precision to help you get where you want it to be.

Sounds awesome! Thanks for the recommendation. Any particular EQ you favor or will a Boss GE-7 work?

 

[Cal Nevari]

Thank you. They don't. When I'm practicing things like different ways to use scales and chords, string skipping and different positions to play a line, etc. etc....I don't care about my tone as much as what I'm doing. But having only one amp for all the different places and volumes you may play really makes it harder on you. And for practice at home, you don't need a cranked high watt tube amp. I know I don't want anyone hearing me at that point. I'm trying to practice in peace without the thought of someone else listening so I can concentrate on what I'm doing.

Precisely.

 

[scozz]

Sounds awesome! Thanks for the recommendation. Any particular EQ you favor or will a Boss GE-7 work?

Boss GE-7 is great. I think the main thing in choosing an eq pedal is transparency, at least for me it is. They all work pretty much the same, I have two cheap eq pedals and they work fine, and are very transparent.

Really my main criteria for eq pedals is not to color the amps tone, too much. Both of mine are doing double duty though, besides eqing, I use them as boosts.

I have all frequencies raised a bit for a boost, then I shape them from that starting point, raising or decreasing whatever frequencies I want.

 

[Cal Nevari]

Boss GE-7 is great. I think the main thing in choosing an eq pedal is transparency, at least for me it is. They all work pretty much the same, I have two cheap eq pedals and they work fine, and are very transparent.

Really my main criteria for eq pedals is not to color the amps tone, too much. Both of mine are doing double duty though, besides eqing, I use them as boosts.

I have all frequencies raised a bit for a boost, then I shape them from that starting point, raising or decreasing whatever frequencies I want.

Awesome! Thanks. Great idea to use it as a booster.

 

[maico996]

Sounds awesome! Thanks for the recommendation. Any particular EQ you favor or will a Boss GE-7 work?

Source Audio SA170 Programmable EQ. Four presets and MIDI capable.

 

[Cal Nevari]

Source Audio SA170 Programmable EQ. Four presets and MIDI capable.

Cool. Thanks!

 

[PaulHikeS2]

With very little hands on experience, but reading around, I think the dsl5cr is the odd one in the dsl series. Too big for home, too small for gigging, and a green channel that doesn’t break up.

I find hard to believe that a 20 or 40 watt amp is adequate for home use, but my volume thresholds are neighbour friendly and lower than everybody else’s. It was very hard to tune my vox ac10 for home (10w). I suppose that people play louder than they care to admit

No criticism to anyone here. Rock is good loud and kudos to anyone able to crank an amp at home. Just not my reality!

I agree with the criticism of the DSL5CR, but the green channel does make a nice pedal platform. I had one for about a year and sold it.

Currently using a DSL1HR thru a 1x12 with a G12H-75 Creamback. Changed out P1 with an ECC823 to tame the red channel a bit, and for me it's a perfect rig for an apartment. Roll down the bass to help a bit with compression and able to (barely) get breakup on the green at manageable volume. Red channel has a much wider sweep with the ECC823 tube change and sounds good.

 

[TonalEuphoria]

Sounds awesome! Thanks for the recommendation. Any particular EQ you favor or will a Boss GE-7 work?

The GE-7 is a solid eq. I've used it before. There are so many choices with gear these days to when I first started playing. I moved away from EQ pedals years ago when I got into Mesa's. And now I use the eq models on the Line 6 HX Effects I use with my other tube amps, except with I play my Mesa Boogie Mark V rig, because it has one of the best built in. Nice thing now though, is you can get it in a pedal.

Mesa/Boogie Boogie Five-band Graphic EQ Pedal

Classic 5-band Graphic Equalizer Pedal

www.sweetwater.com

 

[Cal Nevari]

The GE-7 is a solid eq. I've used it before. There are so many choices with gear these days to when I first started playing. I moved away from EQ pedals years ago when I got into Mesa's. And now I use the eq models on the Line 6 HX Effects I use with my other tube amps, except with I play my Mesa Boogie Mark V rig, because it has one of the best built in. Nice thing now though, is you can get it in a pedal.

Mesa/Boogie Boogie Five-band Graphic EQ Pedal

Classic 5-band Graphic Equalizer Pedal

www.sweetwater.com

Great! Thanks!

 

[TonalEuphoria]

Great! Thanks!

If I were still using seperate pedals, I wouldn't mind one of those myself. I bet that would be really nice to use with a Marshall. A little pricey for a pedal though. And the GE-7 is still a nice pedal for less. But Mesa's graphic eq control is very good and unique in a way. I prefer a 5 band too.

 

[Troy T. Blues]

I can't imagine anything better than 40CR.

 

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I agree with the criticism of the DSL5CR, but the green channel does make a nice pedal platform. I had one for about a year and sold it.

Currently using a DSL1HR thru a 1x12 with a G12H-75 Creamback. Changed out P1 with an ECC823 to tame the red channel a bit, and for me it's a perfect rig for an apartment. Roll down the bass to help a bit with compression and able to (barely) get breakup on the green at manageable volume. Red channel has a much wider sweep with the ECC823 tube change and sounds good.

That is interesting. Is there another thread about this valve replacement on the DSL1? I bought the dsl1cr in December, and to my own surprise I’ve been using the green channel much more than the red. I’d be interested in taming the red channel, as long as it does not affect the green channel.

 

[tchopper]

This is my bedroom rig.

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Wow, not too shabby.

 

[PaulHikeS2]

That is interesting. Is there another thread about this valve replacement on the DSL1? I bought the dsl1cr in December, and to my own surprise I’ve been using the green channel much more than the red. I’d be interested in taming the red channel, as long as it does not affect the green channel.

Yeah - I'd pick one up. It makes the red channel with the gain dialed back sort of a continuation of the green channel cranked. There's still more than enough gain on the red if you turn it up. They say it does not affect the green channel, but to my ears there was a very slight difference - maybe a hair quicker to breakup. That could also be attributed to it just being a different tube.

 

[TheSaz]

These do the job for me. I closed the back of the DSL and use it as a cab, still functional as a combo.

 

['2204']

FWIW I have 3 great sounding Marshalls & use them all for great 'low volume' tones. I run either of the 2 JCM 800s thru the Low Input [I know--that`s the 'unpardonable sin' around here!] w/ a cool distortion pedal [w/ not too much gain added] or sometimes when my wife isn`t home, I`ll crank it alittle more by going thru the High Input. And the SS '5010' is an absolute killer sounding amp on its own, no matter where the MV is set--no pedal needed for it.

 

[ITburst]

Nice

 

[fitz]

And the SS '5010' is an absolute killer sounding amp on its own, no matter where the MV is set--no pedal needed for it.

Yep. Not a tube Marshall, but the 5010 is a great amp.

 

['2204']

Yep. Not a tube Marshall, but the 5010 is a great amp.

Yeah it sound great w/ one of my guitars but only so-so w/ the other--different pickups is the reason I think. I bought 'on a whim' back in 2016--probably because someone here raved about it! Emailed Dr Tube to get his thoughts about it--he told me that it would sound better if I I replaced the filter caps! I thought "Filter caps within a solid state circuit?!" I played it for a while & I thought it sounded great then but put it in the closet as I bought a Ceriatone 20w Yeti.

Just recently however I did have the filter caps replaced & Dr Tube was right--it sounded real good before but sounds even better now. Very glad I have it--sounds like a raging, aggressive 2204 that`s cranked up real loud, even when it isn`t 'cranked up'! I`m getting ready to do some recordings with it that i`ll post here. No need to mention how great my 1x12 2204 & my SC20H sound--everyone here already knows those 2 amps have those classic Marshall 'Hard Rock' tones!

Here`s a picture of the old filter caps from it--looks like resistors etc to me but the tech assured me that they`re filter caps--amp does sound better than before [and it sound great beforehand].

 

[fitz]

Just recently however I did have the filter caps replaced & Dr Tube was right--it sounded real good before but sounds even better now. Very glad I have it--sounds like a raging, aggressive 2204 that`s cranked up real loud, even when it isn`t 'cranked up'!

I haven't changed out the caps, but I did replace all the pots, jacks and output transistors.
Oh, and I put it in a headshell and run it out through the BCUV2 to a pair of G12M-30's.