Marshall SL5C for a live setting

[wylderubicon]

Hi everyone, I currently only have a Marshall SL5C as my amp. I like this amp very much and I enjoy the tones coming out of it. I only use OD channel for the Gn'r type sounds. I mainly use the clean channel with a BOSS BD2 & SD1 stacked as my main versatile sounds. I haven't played live in over 25 years, and I've recently joined a cover/original band with other dad's on my son's baseball team to perform a few fundraiser gigs.

In rehearsals what I noticed is that my amp cuts through the mix great. I have it on s stand so I can hear myself better. I'm competing against a heavy handed drummer and another guitarist running an AC30 with greenbacks. The mix of both guitars running different amps/speaker sounds great, however, my sound is very boxy. If that makes sense. It is plenty loud as far as decibels go, but I don't have a full big sound. I'm trying to remedy this situation, but not sure which route to go

Here is what I have in my head as options. I definitely want to run at least one vintage 30

1) run a 1x12 extension cab with a speaker of recommendation in addition to the vintage30 in the amp
2) run a 2x12 cab and use the amp as a head. Open back or closed back? what type of speakers
3) run a 4x12 cab and use the amp as a head. do I have enough umph to push 4 12s? ironically 4x12 are cheaper on the used market
4) run another amp like a Marshall code5 or code20, maybe even another brand tube amp as a slave amp. Or split signal to dual amps with chorus pedal. Ironically they are cheaper than an extention cab

it is a fundraiser shows, so not looking to over spend thoughts?

thanks

 

[Mike_LA]

I always prefer the sound out of 2 speaker vs just 1.

 

[Mitchell Pearrow]

Hi everyone, I currently only have a Marshall SL5C as my amp. I like this amp very much and I enjoy the tones coming out of it. I only use OD channel for the Gn'r type sounds. I mainly use the clean channel with a BOSS BD2 & SD1 stacked as my main versatile sounds. I haven't played live in over 25 years, and I've recently joined a cover/original band with other dad's on my son's baseball team to perform a few fundraiser gigs.

In rehearsals what I noticed is that my amp cuts through the mix great. I have it on s stand so I can hear myself better. I'm competing against a heavy handed drummer and another guitarist running an AC30 with greenbacks. The mix of both guitars running different amps/speaker sounds great, however, my sound is very boxy. If that makes sense. It is plenty loud as far as decibels go, but I don't have a full big sound. I'm trying to remedy this situation, but not sure which route to go

Here is what I have in my head as options. I definitely want to run at least one vintage 30

1) run a 1x12 extension cab with a speaker of recommendation in addition to the vintage30 in the amp
2) run a 2x12 cab and use the amp as a head. Open back or closed back? what type of speakers
3) run a 4x12 cab and use the amp as a head. do I have enough umph to push 4 12s? ironically 4x12 are cheaper on the used market
4) run another amp like a Marshall code5 or code20, maybe even another brand tube amp as a slave amp. Or split signal to dual amps with chorus pedal. Ironically they are cheaper than an extention cab

it is a fundraiser shows, so not looking to over spend thoughts?

thanks

To The Forum
The chorus with 2 outs is your best bet, and I personally would go with another, SL5C.
The external cabs are a great idea.
I run my Dsl40c’s on top of MG cabs, and I managed to get them at $100.00 each

 

[wylderubicon]

To The Forum
The chorus with 2 outs is your best bet, and I personally would go with another, SL5C.
The external cabs are a great idea.
I run my Dsl40c’s on top of MG cabs, and I managed to get them at $100.00 each

thanks for the welcome, another sl05c would be great, but for the price they go for, I rather get a something different. how are the MG cabs? I'm not a professional musician, I'm not a cork sniffer when it comes to gear.. I preffer my home made tele kit over my 57' goldtop reissue at times... do the MG cabs sound better with replacement speakers? I've tried an MG cab once and it was pretty bad, but I don't know what speakers it had.

 

[Mike_LA]

The chorus with 2 outs is your best bet, and I personally would go with another, SL5C.

Humm, good luck finding another one of those for reasonable $$$ .
Perhaps a DSL5C but it will still sound boxy due to the small speaker, I believe a larger speaker and cab will get the OP closer to what he is looking for

 

[Jethro Rocker]

I say run with a 2x12. V30s cut well and are more sensitive so they are louder than some. Sitting on the floor it should get some good thump.

 

[Mitchell Pearrow]

thanks for the welcome, another sl05c would be great, but for the price they go for, I rather get a something different. how are the MG cabs? I'm not a professional musician, I'm not a cork sniffer when it comes to gear.. I preffer my home made tele kit over my 57' goldtop reissue at times... do the MG cabs sound better with replacement speakers? I've tried an MG cab once and it was pretty bad, but I don't know what speakers it had.

The MG cabs are just ok to spread the sound, but I have been replacing the speakers in them, but I have a ways to go to complete them.
Cheers

 

[headcrash]

Placing it on the bottom can also help with increased/perceived low end.
So does placing it next to room walls or corners.
This is due to low frequency sound waves being radiated spherically. They are reflected from the floor or walls, superimpose and added depending on the frequency and the listening spot.
Depending on the frequency and the listening spot, some do also cancel out.

But mostly the perceived sound is much fuller in smaller rooms, and/or when the speaker cab is placed near walls and/or on the floor.

 

[Seventh Son]

A 1x12 is going to sound boxy, as well. Get a nice 2x12 and you’ll be all set. The cab size is very important. For example, the DSL40CR, which comes with a 1x12 but in a nice, large cab, sounds glorious when compared to my DSL20, which is loud but sounds boxy, due to a lack of bass response. With a 2x12, you just can’t go wrong. Just make sure you don’t get the cheapest, lowest-quality 2x12 out there.

 

[Mike_LA]

One inexpensive way to go is to watch out for used 2X12 combo amps where the amp is fried.
Not quite as nice as a proper 2X12 but you can find really good deals on old combo cabs that sound pretty good.
My buddy was complaining about how boxy his AC10 was, so I made him a y connector and we hooked it up to his 2X12 Marshall MG and it sounds glorious . . .YMMV .

 

[Georgiatec]

I also have an SL-5c and have used it for gigs with a 1922 model 2 x 12 cab with two 8 ohm greenbacks wired in series for a 16 ohm cab. I made a "Y" speaker lead so I could plug both the cab and the amp speaker into it then into the 8 ohm output of the amp.
I set the 212 cab up on the opposite side of the stage and the out front sound was great.
If you tilt the amp and cab up slightly they are also caught by the vocal mics which adds to fullness of sound.

 

[wylderubicon]

update,

picked up a Marshall MX212AR cab, it is a vertical 2 x 12 slanted cab. It has a V30 in the bottom and an Eminence DV-77 in the top. I'm not a fan of the DV-77, but adding the cab made the sound big like I wanted to, so I suppose my problem is solved. What speakers do you recommend for a low watt, full sound to compliment the V30?

thanks

 

[Cal Nevari]

Hi everyone, I currently only have a Marshall SL5C as my amp. I like this amp very much and I enjoy the tones coming out of it. I only use OD channel for the Gn'r type sounds. I mainly use the clean channel with a BOSS BD2 & SD1 stacked as my main versatile sounds. I haven't played live in over 25 years, and I've recently joined a cover/original band with other dad's on my son's baseball team to perform a few fundraiser gigs.

In rehearsals what I noticed is that my amp cuts through the mix great. I have it on s stand so I can hear myself better. I'm competing against a heavy handed drummer and another guitarist running an AC30 with greenbacks. The mix of both guitars running different amps/speaker sounds great, however, my sound is very boxy. If that makes sense. It is plenty loud as far as decibels go, but I don't have a full big sound. I'm trying to remedy this situation, but not sure which route to go

Here is what I have in my head as options. I definitely want to run at least one vintage 30

1) run a 1x12 extension cab with a speaker of recommendation in addition to the vintage30 in the amp
2) run a 2x12 cab and use the amp as a head. Open back or closed back? what type of speakers
3) run a 4x12 cab and use the amp as a head. do I have enough umph to push 4 12s? ironically 4x12 are cheaper on the used market
4) run another amp like a Marshall code5 or code20, maybe even another brand tube amp as a slave amp. Or split signal to dual amps with chorus pedal. Ironically they are cheaper than an extention cab

it is a fundraiser shows, so not looking to over spend thoughts?

thanks

Welcome to the forum! IME, having two amps running in stereo, whilst a nuisance to set up, sounds great. Also doubles your output wattage and fattens up your sound, thereby possibly addressing your concerns about the sound being boxy.