Marshall 2525H Studio Jubilee Head (20 Watts) - Looking for users opinions...

[Vonbleak]

You know what, I tried the same thing recently and it can work well exactly as you described. The pulled rhythm clip grind tone is very nice…but two problems: it’s not as loud, and frankly the clean and lead channels really do sound better for most situations.

Im not sure i understand - The pulled rythem clip is on the 'clean' channel and it has its own master volume so what do you mean its not as loud...? So i would still be using the 'clean' and 'lead' channels just with the clean in 'rythem clip' mode...

 

[Maxbrothman]

While the amp does have a channel switch, I think many users of this amp, have more than one, and switch between them instead.

If I was looking for a clean to dirt platform maybe the DSL or the JVM series offers a better option there.

 

[maico996]

When you engage the Rhythm Clip on the clean channel, there is a significant drop in volume, which is normal. If you don't mind giving up the clean channel, this is a good solution but I was never able to bond with the Rhythm Clip sound. A clean boost in the loop was the answer that worked best because the lead channel just sounds so much better to me.

 

[cjs42079]

Im not sure i understand - The pulled rythem clip is on the 'clean' channel and it has its own master volume so what do you mean its not as loud...? So i would still be using the 'clean' and 'lead' channels just with the clean in 'rythem clip' mode...

Yea, but let's say you have the master volume on 8 (or higher) already...when you pull the rhythm clip, the volume drops significantly. You can turn it up but you're already almost maxed out. This amp can't turn up to 11, these small studio Marshall's only go to 10 (and run our of real headroom around 8)

Bottom line IME: using the rhythm clip even on highest master volume isn't quite loud enough to hang with a rock drummer.

 

[Vonbleak]

When you engage the Rhythm Clip on the clean channel, there is a significant drop in volume, which is normal. If you don't mind giving up the clean channel, this is a good solution but I was never able to bond with the Rhythm Clip sound. A clean boost in the loop was the answer that worked best because the lead channel just sounds so much better to me.

Well, i would still be using the lead channel for solos and be using the clean in rythem clip mode for my dirty sound... I have no issues using my volume knob to clean up the tone when needed...

 

[Vonbleak]

Yea, but let's say you have the master volume on 8 (or higher) already...when you pull the rhythm clip, the volume drops significantly. You can turn it up but you're already almost maxed out. This amp can't turn up to 11, these small studio Marshall's only go to 10 (and run our of real headroom around 8)

Bottom line IME: using the rhythm clip even on highest master volume isn't quite loud enough to hang with a rock drummer.

Ah ok i see now - So you guys think the clean channel in rythem clip is just not loud enough to play live with...? If true thats a little disapointing haha...

 

[Jethro Rocker]

So ive been doing some thinking about exactly how to use this amp with respect to solo's and boosting the level and all of that...

Some people have suggested using an EQ pedal to boost the level for solo's and i dont really want to do that, i wanna keep things simple...
Then it became pretty clear and obvious haha... The Jubilee has 2 channels each with a master volume... So if i use channel 1 with the clipping boost engaged that will give me a nice crunchy 'rythem' tone that i can clean up by just using the volume knob... Then i can use channel 2 exclusively for solo's and just have the master volumes set so that channel 2 is a bit louder than channel 1... Its actually really simple haha...

Then i can use the Duke of tone for the heavier songs (have it on all the time for those songs) and turn it off for the more chilled songs... This would give me 2 'modes' of opperation as it were, which would give the set/album more variation in tone/dynamics...

So what do you guys this of this approach...?

You can use the clip on channel one, yes. I am not overly fond of the tone of it myself. Using a pedal out front makes it more versatile, sure. To me, a pedal is a pedal whether out front or in loop.
But that method works, sure. I have done it before.

 

[Jethro Rocker]

Ah ok i see now - So you guys think the clean channel in rythem clip is just not loud enough to play live with...? If true thats a little disapointing haha...

It is fine. Just that when it engages, both channels drop in volume a little. If you leave it engaged just turn up master a bit.
For me, the clip isn't distorted enough for me so I need gain full up. That makes it harder to get cleaner when required thus the OD pedal. I try not to use OD pedals whenever possible. it maybe too much with lead channel. One has to walk a fine line on the gain control when using an OD.
Plus with an EQ in loop I get different EQ settings for solos too.

 

[Vonbleak]

It is fine. Just that when it engages, both channels drop in volume a little. If you leave it engaged just turn up master a bit.

Yeah thats what i was thinking - having 'rythem clip' on the entire time... So that channel 1 is now 'crunch' and channel 2 is now 'lead'...

 

[scozz]

Also i've been doing some reading and it seems MOST PEOPLE SAY DONT PUT A BOOST/DRIVE IN THE LOOP AS THAT CAN ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY DAMAGE THE AMP, so i dont think i'll be doing that haha... Hendrix and Page did not need to do that so i think i'll be just fine haha...

Where did you read that?


I’m pretty sure the amps Hendrix and Page used didn’t have effects loops.

 

[Jethro Rocker]

Yeah thats what i was thinking - having 'rythem clip' on the entire time... So that channel 1 is now 'crunch' and channel 2 is now 'lead'...

You do have to try it to see if it is suitable both tonally and crunch wise for you.

 

[Vonbleak]

Yeah thanks guys for all the comments and information...

Now of course i will have to wait till i get the amp and drive pedal (Duke of Tone) to really figure all of this out - but after some more thinking this is what i think i'll do...

Use channel 1 clean (no rythem clip) and then use the drive pedal to get a nice 'crunch' tone... So i will basically have clean/crunch on channel 1
Use channel 2 overdrive exclusively for solos, so i can set the master volume so it gives a slight volume boost over channel 1 and use the drive pedal when i want a 'searing lead tone' and have the drive pedal off for a more classic rock / bluesy lead tone...

This way i kinda have 4 tones available - clean (chan 1) / crunch (chan 1) / lead 1 (chan 2) /lead 2 (chan 2)... This seems to be the most veratile way of using what gear i will have...

How does this sound to you guys...?

 

[Jubilant]

That’s how I set it up to play live,only exception is I use a clean boost instead of an overdrive pedal.

 

[cjs42079]

This is the way, Vonbleak

 

[maico996]

That will work, but you're missing out on the Jub's best feature which is it's beefy overdrive for rhythm playing. I tried the road you're going down using the clean channel with an SD1 it didn't work for me tone-wise. Hopefully it works out for you.

 

[Jethro Rocker]

That will work, but you're missing out on the Jub's best feature which is it's beefy overdrive for rhythm playing. I tried the road you're going down using the clean channel with an SD1 it didn't work for me tone-wise. Hopefully it works out for you.

I agree. I live on Lead Channel.

 

[Maxbrothman]

You can live on the lead channel and have clean by dialing the guitar volume pot to 1 - 3 and tone to 10. That's how I use all my amps, including this one which I just had on today.

Of all my amps, the Jubilee is the one most often sitting on my cab.

I go direct however I may use time-based fx in the loop.

I used to think the Marshall sound in my mind was the 80s JCM800 thrash one. It isn't. It is 90s Jubilee.

 

[headcrash]

To my ears, the rhythm clip sound on channel 1 sounds veeeerrry good!
It also works quite well rolling back guitar volume to get a clean-ish sound.
When using it as a channel switcher, I set input gain at around 6-7 with medium hot bridge humbuckers. It gives me classic rock/hard rock tone on the rhythm clip mode, reminiscent of a JCM 800 2203/2204/SC20 with its gain set round the same (6..7..).The rhythm clip mode sounds a little thinner than the lead channel sound with the same input gain setting, but I think this is perfect for rhythm playing.
The lead channel does not add too much distortion (with the same input gain setting), but sounds overall fuller and meaner. I use that one for tight chugga chugga drop D late 90s metal-type riffing. Although it is by far not comparable to that dense,creamy, overly saturated Soldano SLO / Mesa Recto / Peavey or EVH 5150 type gain level (these amps are usually associated with tight chugga chugga riffing). But the Jubilee's lead channel works good for that (even unboosted), and keeps the guitar's soundscape tidy and tight, if you will so.
And I consider the lead channel is perfect for heavier mid 80s hard rock riffing, like old Lynch, DeMartini, and the likes. Out of the box, to me it sounds like a v ery good hot rodded Marshall.

VonBleak, I think, once you have the amp and the drive pedal, you will see which way works best for you.

 

[Mystic38]

the 2525H is the most flexible of the studio amps by far.. I have one and love it but..

but just love it for the lead channel.. and use pedals to fix everything else that you want.

 

[67mike]

I have the 2555x.

Incredible amp.

Just have to dial them in.....not a set at noon amp.