I think I used a simple boost in front of gained up amp (SC20h) successfully

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Hi All,

I played a show this past weekend. I don't play many shows and am inexperienced, still on learning curve. I played my SC20h and had just an overdrive (BOSS SD-1) and tuner on my board. Fairly dense mix with 2 guitars playing rock.

I ran the amp with pre-amp on about 5 and master volume on about 3 (small venue). I was mic'd. I played 90% of the show with my guitar (Les Paul) volume on '7'. For solos, I just turned up all the way and stomped on the SD-1.

From the stage I didn't really feel like I was getting much of a boost and assumed I was not cutting through. However, listening to a recording from the room, my solos were very audible. That said the recording was taken from my side of the stage so that should be a factor.

I've read lots of threads about not getting enough of a boost if running into the front end of an amp that's already in overdrive and I had this FUD going into the show, but the room recording makes me feel like this could actually be a viable option.

Does anyone else just boost the front of a dirty amp successfully or should I assume the recording was just getting beamed by my guitar? Maybe the combination of turning down volume (it was still in crunch mode even rolled back to 7) and the fact that the amp wasn't out of headroom made this viable? Oh, people in the room said they could hear me just fine.

If this method is a proven method and folks more experienced with me can affirm it's viable than I'll just go with this strategy from now on and not worry about a boost in effects loop or an attentuator, etc.

Thanks
 

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I played a show this past weekend.
Everybody knows I really like hearing about when our MF members have played out, GJ!

Well, on the Marshall website -captures the spirit of the JCM800 range at a smaller size.
Why 4010s 2203s and 2204s eat Ibanez Tube Screamers and Boss overdrives (like your SD-1) for lunch!
Yes, ride that volume knob as long as you have the amp all gained up where you like it and - control that beast!
 

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Hi All,

I played a show this past weekend. I don't play many shows and am inexperienced, still on learning curve. I played my SC20h and had just an overdrive (BOSS SD-1) and tuner on my board. Fairly dense mix with 2 guitars playing rock.

I ran the amp with pre-amp on about 5 and master volume on about 3 (small venue). I was mic'd. I played 90% of the show with my guitar (Les Paul) volume on '7'. For solos, I just turned up all the way and stomped on the SD-1.

From the stage I didn't really feel like I was getting much of a boost and assumed I was not cutting through. However, listening to a recording from the room, my solos were very audible. That said the recording was taken from my side of the stage so that should be a factor.

I've read lots of threads about not getting enough of a boost if running into the front end of an amp that's already in overdrive and I had this FUD going into the show, but the room recording makes me feel like this could actually be a viable option.

Does anyone else just boost the front of a dirty amp successfully or should I assume the recording was just getting beamed by my guitar? Maybe the combination of turning down volume (it was still in crunch mode even rolled back to 7) and the fact that the amp wasn't out of headroom made this viable? Oh, people in the room said they could hear me just fine.

If this method is a proven method and folks more experienced with me can affirm it's viable than I'll just go with this strategy from now on and not worry about a boost in effects loop or an attentuator, etc.

Thanks
SC20h has a lot of mid-range and cuts through quite well hence why the JCM800 is a popular choice to see at live gigs. You can use volume, boost, or sometimes nothing at all and just direct to amp. The problem usually comes from scooping the mid-range for the metal sound at home. That won't work in a live situation as the mids are your sonic pathway for electric guitar. Drums, bass and vocals flood the low and high end.
 

paul-e-mann

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Hi All,

I played a show this past weekend. I don't play many shows and am inexperienced, still on learning curve. I played my SC20h and had just an overdrive (BOSS SD-1) and tuner on my board. Fairly dense mix with 2 guitars playing rock.

I ran the amp with pre-amp on about 5 and master volume on about 3 (small venue). I was mic'd. I played 90% of the show with my guitar (Les Paul) volume on '7'. For solos, I just turned up all the way and stomped on the SD-1.

From the stage I didn't really feel like I was getting much of a boost and assumed I was not cutting through. However, listening to a recording from the room, my solos were very audible. That said the recording was taken from my side of the stage so that should be a factor.

I've read lots of threads about not getting enough of a boost if running into the front end of an amp that's already in overdrive and I had this FUD going into the show, but the room recording makes me feel like this could actually be a viable option.

Does anyone else just boost the front of a dirty amp successfully or should I assume the recording was just getting beamed by my guitar? Maybe the combination of turning down volume (it was still in crunch mode even rolled back to 7) and the fact that the amp wasn't out of headroom made this viable? Oh, people in the room said they could hear me just fine.

If this method is a proven method and folks more experienced with me can affirm it's viable than I'll just go with this strategy from now on and not worry about a boost in effects loop or an attentuator, etc.

Thanks
Youre doing it right, the only way to get lead volume boost on a gained up amp is with guitar volume rolled back first then dial it up for lead. It would also be helpful if your second guitarist rolled his volume down a bit while you do your solo so you can really punch through. It might be helpful next time you gig if someone records the band center and rear of the venue then you'll know for sure how you sound. I'm not good at rolling guitar knobs on the fly so I like to use a boost in the loop for volume.
 

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