I Need A Small Recording Set Up?

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OK, here is what I want to get. I need a good set of speakers, I'm thinking something like Yamaha HS-8 or JBL 3 series (308) They would be for everything I hope, stereo, playback for the recorder and stereo to play the rhythm and record a lead. They have 8" woofers so I shouldn't need sub's.

Next I need a good recorder, Tascam / Zoom R-16 something like that. I want to be able to record to a Dig. HD or SD card to add track's to. Then record to USB and CD-R. Then I can record part's, send it to a buddy of mine and he'll put a drum track to it and send it back. I can then play the CD until I get what I want and add to it for a final disk. So if I need a CD-R and play back machine also let me know what would be good.

Mic's I can figure out, to start I'll get a couple 57's and maybe one real good one for guitar. I'm not duplicating CBS so I would like to get everything for about $2000 depending on the monitors. The JBL's seem like the best deal. Any help will help.
 

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best bet is to get a streamlined computer & an interface to record. If you have enough CPU power & RAM, you can record infinite amount of tracks w/ your DAW.

Most digital stand-alone recorders do not have very good pre-amps & you are limited to how many tracks can be recorded at the same time.

Get a solid state drive for the computer, will be like a CF/SD card.

You can get a CD burner for your computer for $20 - I bought 2, about 10 years ago for that - Sony.

So, if you own a computer, beef up the RAM, depending on the CPU, you might upgrade it. Get an interface w/ low latency, so there's no delay in sound getting to the track/monitor. Most have phantom power, so you can then add some nice mic's.

The main thing will be, that, when you start adding tracks of wav files, that everything is streamlined w/ no bottlenecks, like slow hard drives, running out of RAM, or taxing your CPU beyond capabilities. You start running 24 tracks of 96/24 files, all at the same time, then adding effects, etc, you can start bogging down things easily & if there's any hiccups, you'll easily find out & sometimes run into a crash, which might mean starting over from some point.

Read the recording thread. It's lengthy, but skimming through it, you can find some questions asked/answered in there.
 

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At my homestudo I have a pair of Yamaha HS-7, a Steinberg UR22 MKII and a fast laptop (I7 / SDD drive).
The preamps in the Steinberg are pretty good - Yamaha D-PRE Class-A. A SM57 mics and an sE Z5600 for vocals.
When I mix I have to compensate (be easy on the lows) for not having a sub, but that is not a problem. The most important thing, in my opinion, is the placement of the monitors. They need about 1.5 meters behind them for the bass reflex. Also think about some room treatment - it does wonders.
 

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I had a Korg D-1600 and a Boss BR-1600. Both were good, but the Korg had better preamps and was more stable. It actually had very nice FX.

Two years ago, I got a MacBook Pro, Focusrite interface and Logic Pro X. There is a learning curve, but the capabilities are so much better. The FX are great, you can use Plug-In's, recording tracks is easy, doing Take 1 through X is easy, and then you can pick the best sections of songs to put it all together.

I also have the Yamaha HS-8's. Did a lot of research and testing and they were clearly the best for the $ to me.

I'd recommend going the computer route. You can get a used MacBook Pro, Focusrite Scarlett, HS-8's and be real close to your budget.

In summary, the Korg did a great job, but it is archaic to use. Logic Pro is quite intuitive once you start messing with it.

DP
 

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Review everything you get BEFORE buying.
One of our recording "studios" is in the computer.
Pretty small -- as far as space. LOGIC PRO
 

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I have a Tascam DP-24 for recording I like it
My band uses one of those too. We record everything to that, take the wav files and put them on a PC and use mixcraft to mix everything.
 

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OK, here is what I want to get. I need a good set of speakers, I'm thinking something like Yamaha HS-8 or JBL 3 series (308) They would be for everything I hope, stereo, playback for the recorder and stereo to play the rhythm and record a lead. They have 8" woofers so I shouldn't need sub's.

Next I need a good recorder, Tascam / Zoom R-16 something like that. I want to be able to record to a Dig. HD or SD card to add track's to. Then record to USB and CD-R. Then I can record part's, send it to a buddy of mine and he'll put a drum track to it and send it back. I can then play the CD until I get what I want and add to it for a final disk. So if I need a CD-R and play back machine also let me know what would be good.

Mic's I can figure out, to start I'll get a couple 57's and maybe one real good one for guitar. I'm not duplicating CBS so I would like to get everything for about $2000 depending on the monitors. The JBL's seem like the best deal. Any help will help.

No matter where you start small....it's bound to grow massively.
So no matter what you start with -think about using it with whatever you add later. (or having capability to add it later)
 

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This is the stuff I started with, (plus cables and mic stand). The R16 comes with the software for mixing. It wasn't very expensive and should do everything I'll need for quite a while. I'm hoping I can figure out a way to use my Fractal FX-8 to add effects for mixing, if not I'm sure I can get something. I ended up going with the JBL's after listening to both the Yamaha 8" & the JBL 8", it was $150 a speaker more for the Yamaha's and I thought the JBL's sounded just as good if not flatter / better. We'll see how it works in a few days.

1 R16 $399.99 Zoom 16-track SD Rec/Controller

1 SRH440 $125.00 $79.00 $79.00 Shure Closed Monitor Headphones

1 SM57 $124.00 $99.00 Shure Dynamic Inst Microphone

1 DN300CMK2 $199.00 $199.00 Denon CD/USB Audio Player/rec

2 LSR308MK2 $311.25 $199.00 $398.00 JBL 8" LSR 3 Series MK2 Monitor (ea)
 

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Just a thought, and you probably already considered this, but you may want to consider something like Protools, Reaper (which I think you can still get it free), or StudioOne (which I use). The benefit here is that you can record, mix, edit, and store all of your tracks. You can get a PreSonus DAW which comes with StudioOne. Sweetwater has a bundle deal (link below) that includes USB Audiobox interface 96, headphones, mic, monitors, and studioOne all for $299.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...imate-usb-2.0-hardware-software-recording-kit
 

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Just a thought, and you probably already considered this, but you may want to consider something like Protools, Reaper (which I think you can still get it free), or StudioOne (which I use). The benefit here is that you can record, mix, edit, and store all of your tracks. You can get a PreSonus DAW which comes with StudioOne. Sweetwater has a bundle deal (link below) that includes USB Audiobox interface 96, headphones, mic, monitors, and studioOne all for $299.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...imate-usb-2.0-hardware-software-recording-kit
I think the R16 comes with a free copy of one of those, it might be Studio One. I think I got everything I need for starters. I put it on their 3 month payment plan, it came out to about $450 for the first one and two more of about $400 each. It makes it easy to blow money you probably wouldn't any other time.
 

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Im another one who thinks the computer is the way to go, you can add a better interface later if you want and there are some really good mic preamps out there for later if the bug bites also. I use Pro tools which lets me do lots of things a stand alone recorder can't do. I have a drum program I use in Pro tools as well, which can burn up a lot of time if you let it. I wrote this drum track, played and recorded bass and guitar. the bass is my start through a bass simulator in Pro tools. Its a lot of fun fiddling with all this stuff so be warned, a few late nights are on the horizon.

 

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