dealing with aggression at the workplace

[Frodebro]

it blows my mind the kind of mentality some people have here... victim blaming is a horrible thing ... its beyond rude and ignorant - telling ME, that I probably deserved being screamed at, deserved to be verbally harassed, and threatened with physical violence for 20 minutes straight, and made to feel like my life was in danger, when I did absolutely NOTHING wrong at all, and treated the customers with nothing but calm, professional civility... its truly mind boggling that there are people who would come to the conclusion that I brought this on myself and had it coming... I truly do not know how logic works within the brain of certain people. thanks to those that offered some supportive, and/or helpful info... as for the others - some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Honestly, this post pretty accurately sums up EXACTLY what is wrong with society today.

People have been conditioned to be emotionally driven, which makes them easy to manipulate and decreases their tendency to rationally think their way through life (We just witnessed over the past couple of years what happens when people allow themselves to be controlled by fear, BTW). Combine that with an ever-increasing sense of entitlement and you can see why people just no longer have the tools necessary to interact positively with those around them.

 

[ricksdisconnected]

has anyone else ever had to deal with something like this?

hell, the job i work now i was threatened to be shot twice in my first 3 days
at the job. thats not even the worst of what we/i go through there almost daily.

 

[Jethro Rocker]

I was nothing but kind and pleasant and professional with these people when they first walked into the office. I'm 48 years old. I've worked in retail management and in customer based job positions all my life... it was 100% them that completely flew off the handle and started cursing us out and screaming at us. neither me nor anyone else in this office said anything to provoke these savages. they quite literally went from zero to a hundred within a matter of a minute. they did not want to hear ANYTHING we had to say, kept talking/yelling over us, and had a nasty, oppositional attitude right from the get-go.

Yep, mental health issues with some, I hesitate to say, but nutbar that goes off the rails is not the employee's fault. People, don't blame the victim.

 

[DirtySteve]

Aggression in the workplace? How about an argument that turned into a full blown shootout in the office right outside your office (with the door wide open) where your boss shot and killed a guy over something stupid and then proceeded to empty the clip trying to shoot the guy's brother and instead got himself shot and killed and in the aftermath the company fell apart and you lost your job, your home, and then had a stroke over the stress of the whole thing?

Yeah... that was fun. Almost 5 years ago and I'm still not really over it.


You just never know what people are capable of until it happens and it's too late. I trust no one and take nothing for granted anymore.

 

[ricksdisconnected]

Aggression in the workplace? How about an argument that turned into a full blown shootout in the office right outside your office (with the door wide open) where your boss shot and killed a guy over something stupid and then proceeded to empty the clip trying to shoot the guy's brother and instead got himself shot and killed and in the aftermath the company fell apart and you lost your job, your home, and then had a stroke over the stress of the whole thing?

Yeah... that was fun. Almost 5 years ago and I'm still not really over it.


You just never know what people are capable of until it happens and it's too late. I trust no one and take nothing for granted anymore.

i remember you mentioning this a few yrs back but some time after it happened.

 

[paul-e-mann]

I was nothing but kind and pleasant and professional with these people when they first walked into the office. I'm 48 years old. I've worked in retail management and in customer based job positions all my life... it was 100% them that completely flew off the handle and started cursing us out and screaming at us. neither me nor anyone else in this office said anything to provoke these savages. they quite literally went from zero to a hundred within a matter of a minute. they did not want to hear ANYTHING we had to say, kept talking/yelling over us, and had a nasty, oppositional attitude right from the get-go.

It was all your fault!

 

[paul-e-mann]

Aggression in the workplace? How about an argument that turned into a full blown shootout in the office right outside your office (with the door wide open) where your boss shot and killed a guy over something stupid and then proceeded to empty the clip trying to shoot the guy's brother and instead got himself shot and killed and in the aftermath the company fell apart and you lost your job, your home, and then had a stroke over the stress of the whole thing?

Yeah... that was fun. Almost 5 years ago and I'm still not really over it.


You just never know what people are capable of until it happens and it's too late. I trust no one and take nothing for granted anymore.

Did that really happen?

 

[DirtySteve]

Did that really happen?

it did.

 

[paul-e-mann]

it did.

To you? Is that why you left Florida? Thats a crazy story, are you ok, how you doing?

 

[DirtySteve]

To you? Is that why you left Florida? Thats a crazy story, are you ok, how you doing?

Yes it happened to me and yes that's why I left Florida.

There's parts of the story I'm going to leave out to try and keep this short, but in a nut shell,, After all that happened I took a trip up to TN to see my folks and just to just get away and gather my thoughts. While I was here they offered to give me the basement apartment to live in (for about a 3rd the rent I was paying) and help my mom take care of my Dad who had a lot of health issues. I didn't know what I was going to do and I wanted to get out of florida so bad it was a pretty easy choice for me. That's why I moved to TN.

Well on Jan 8th my Dad passed so now my world is about to turn upside down again because my Mom is going to sell the house and move back to Florida and I'm kind of stuck without knowing where I'm going to go from here.

I said all that to answer your question "how are you doing?" See, I was doing ok, but now I'm not. I have a lot to figure out in the next few months (or less) and as you may or may not know I'm on service connected disability for chronic anxiety disorder and right now I'm having a real hard time keeping the panic attacks under control so I'm not really sure how I'm doing as we speak, but I'll be ok in the end I'm sure.



edit: I have no idea why I'm saying all this out loud except that I have no one to talk to really and I've had a few beers and let my guard down. Sorry to be a bummer...

 

[Australian]

It looks like this thread has become a “I was nearly shot twice… well thats cool but I was nearly shot thrice” thread. Settle down you wannabe Al Capones. 🙃

 

[ricksdisconnected]

edit: I have no idea why I'm saying all this out loud except that I have no one to talk to really

i know how you feel bro.

 

[bigheadstocklover]

No. We haven't always been here. The businesses you mentioned have often been targets but things have changed in the last 20-30 years. Schools and churches were not typical targets and neither were Walmarts or shopping malls. We have become a much more violent society IN THIS COUNTRY. What changed since 1990?

While there are a couple slight bumps recently, the thing that's changed since 1990 is access to social media. Violent crime is WAY down since 1990...

Reported violent crime rate in the U.S. 2021 | Statista

In 2021, the violent crime rate in the United States was 395.7 cases per 100,000 of the population.

www.statista.com

 

[ricksdisconnected]

Violent crime is WAY down since 1990...

i call total BS on this one. dont care who has done the study.
they will show you what they want you to see but i was there then
just like i am now. only thing thats way down since then is morale.

 

[Lo-Tek]

Yeah for real. I have no dispute with that statement, I even agree with it. What I tend to have an issue with is when it gets blamed on something that literally cannot get sick, something that literally cannot feel, think, or do anything at all, until a sick human being decides to use it for those purposes. Like a vehicle. Or a baseball bat. Or....well, you all know damn well what I'm talking about. That's just as shortsighted as can be.

Frankly, I think there's a lot of reasons why this sickness in society has seemed to grow. Most all of which are points of discussion we are not allowed to have here.

It's not hard for me to see why people are feeling the way they are. If I start to think too hard on it, I begin to get pissed off too sometimes.

Mass shootings may be up, but you know what's virtually non existent today that used to be prolific in the 70s and 80s? Serial killers.

This sickness has always been here. There's just more of it, with more people, and we hear about more of it, instantaneously, every day.

Well people often want a simple solution. Blaming guns is easier than figuring out why people want to kill. I had a discussion with a member here who insisted rap music was to blame for violence. lol
Never mind that violent crime started to decline around the same time rap came out.

Sometimes you here people say it's a lack of religion; as if religious people never do terrible things..

Not sure what you mean by:
"not hard for me to see why people are feeling the way they are. If I start to think too hard on it, I begin to get pissed off too sometimes."
I assume you are not so upset you would go kill a bunch of random people. I have a very hard time imagining ever being that pissed off. Besides, killing random people won't change anything anyhow.

I agree about sensationalism but it's not just the media. Politicians love to scare people too. Obviously fear is big business for gunmakers too. They have seen some bumper crop years for gun sales lately. Fear can be useful! lol

i call total BS on this one. dont care who has done the study.
they will show you what they want you to see but i was there then
just like i am now. only thing thats way down since then is morale.

The FBI has reported for years violent crime is trending downward although I think recently it blipped up a tick. Compared to the 70s and 80s I believe it is still significantly down.

 

[ricksdisconnected]

Well people often want a simple solution. Blaming guns is easier than figuring out why people want to kill. I had a discussion with a member here who insisted rap music was to blame for violence. lol
Never mind that violent crime started to decline around the same time rap came out.

Sometimes you here people say it's a lack of religion; as if religious people never do terrible things..

Not sure what you mean by:
"not hard for me to see why people are feeling the way they are. If I start to think too hard on it, I begin to get pissed off too sometimes."
I assume you are not so upset you would go kill a bunch of random people. I have a very hard time imagining ever being that pissed off. Besides, killing random people won't change anything anyhow.

I agree about sensationalism but it's not just the media. Politicians love to scare people too. Obviously fear is big business for gunmakers too. They have seen some bumper crop years for gun sales lately. Fear can be useful! lol


The FBI has reported for years violent crime is trending downward although I think recently it blipped up a tick. Compared to the 70s and 80s I believe it is still significantly down.

yeah the FBI. they have no reason to lie do they?

 

[mcblink]

Well people often want a simple solution. Blaming guns is easier than figuring out why people want to kill. I had a discussion with a member here who insisted rap music was to blame for violence. lol
Never mind that violent crime started to decline around the same time rap came out.

Sometimes you here people say it's a lack of religion; as if religious people never do terrible things..

Not sure what you mean by:
"not hard for me to see why people are feeling the way they are. If I start to think too hard on it, I begin to get pissed off too sometimes."
I assume you are not so upset you would go kill a bunch of random people. I have a very hard time imagining ever being that pissed off. Besides, killing random people won't change anything anyhow.

I agree about sensationalism but it's not just the media. Politicians love to scare people too. Obviously fear is big business for gunmakers too. They have seen some bumper crop years for gun sales lately. Fear can be useful! lol


The FBI has reported for years violent crime is trending downward although I think recently it blipped up a tick. Compared to the 70s and 80s I believe it is still significantly down.

No, clearly, I'm not so upset that any amount of human life taking over it is ever justifiable. If it really came down to it, I'd sooner move elsewhere before deciding that killing people is a viable solution. Self defense? Sure, that's justifiable. But my point was, that there's a lot of different things that are riling people up over the last handful of years, and that it doesn't necessarily take a scientific study to figure out why, but mostly that it's foolish and short sighted to lay blame on anything other than the mentally fucked up human being that made the choice to kill another human being(s). Beyond that, we delve into territory of discussion that isn't welcome on this forum.

There actually is a link between hip hop and mass incarceration, the story goes back quite a ways, but here's my problem with that: blaming the music, or guns, or anything else for that matter... these people still made a choice. It wasn't the hip hop that forced anyone do anything, and it's not the gun that forced anyone do anything, it was a choice made by the individual and they need to be responsible for it, not some music they were listening to, or some gun that was literally doing nothing to anyone before the fucker put it in his hands and decided to kill a human being or several with it.

You're right, it wasn't hip hop's fault, in any way, shape, or form, and likewise, it isn't the gun's fault in any way, shape or form.

People wanting an easy solution and blaming objects or music or politics or whatever.....they are part of the problem. There's not an easy solution, never will be, but removing rights of law abiding citizens is one of those things that WILL rile people up in all the wrong ways.

These times we're living in is a product of our own doing. Blame ourselves.

 

[mcblink]

yeah the FBI. they have no reason to lie do they?

You know, I can't think of a single reason why the FBI or the Government would ever want to lie to us!

 

[ricksdisconnected]

You know, I can't think of a single reason why the FBI or the Government would ever want to lie to us!

nor i my good sir.

 

[mickeydg5]

Man, this is some freaky stupid shit here.